Environmentally Sensitive Lands Fund: How Are We Doing?
Botched purchases and more. Gone are the grants and partnerships that underwrote purchases like Princess Place Preserve. Gone too is the wisdom and expertise that once guided land purchases.
By Toby Tobin
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Property |
Year |
ESL Funds Spent |
Other Funding |
Source |
Acreage |
|
Bings Landing Park |
1989 |
$1,005,024 |
|
|
7 |
|
Lake Disston Access |
1990 |
$50,729 |
|
|
2 |
|
Haw Creek Preserve |
1990 |
$1,121,194 |
$436,925 |
SJRWMD |
1,015 |
|
Betty Steflik Preserve Phase I |
1990 |
$808,967 |
|
|
218 |
|
Washington Oaks Addition |
1993 |
$49,900 |
$586,900 |
FDEP |
11 |
|
Princess Place Preserve |
1993 |
$1,738,647 |
$2,909,736 |
P-2000 and SJRWMD |
1,500 |
|
River to Sea Preserve |
1993 |
$0 |
$8,383,473 |
P-2000 |
90 |
|
Betty Steflik Preserve Phase II |
1999 |
$0 |
$83,626 |
|
105 |
|
Lehigh Rail Trail |
2001 |
$0 |
$282,800 |
FDEP |
200 |
|
Palm Coast Linear Park |
2001 |
$1,465,000 |
$5,935,000 |
City of Palm Coast |
51 |
|
Palm Coast Linear Park Addition |
2002 |
$192,000 |
$768,000 |
City of Palm Coast |
5 |
|
Shell Bluff |
2005 |
$1,000,000 |
|
|
90 |
|
Malacompra Oceanfront Addition |
2006 |
$0 |
$3,414,500 |
Florida Forever |
5 |
|
Mulberry Branch |
2007 |
$1,200,000 |
$800,000 |
City of Palm Coast |
60 |
|
Bull Creek Fish Camp |
2007 |
$1,800,000 |
|
|
28 |
|
Public Lands "D" |
2007 |
$0 |
$0 |
Donation by Ginn Corp. |
1,000 |
|
Long's Landing |
2008 |
$1,365,000 |
$3,135,000 |
City of Palm Coast (applied for grants) |
9 |
|
Moody Homesite |
2008 |
$950,000 |
$2,350,000 |
Charitable Land Donation |
3.5 |
|
Harbor Island |
2008 |
$425,000 |
$425,000 |
FDEP |
|
|
Bay Drive Park Addition |
2009 |
$5,850,000 |
|
|
13 |
|
Bings Landing Addition |
2009 |
$1,500,000 |
|
|
2.5 |
|
Sweetbottom |
2009 |
$2,498,430 |
|
|
97 |
|
Pellicer Flats |
2010 |
$2,750,000 to $4,500,000 |
|
|
980 |
|
TOTAL |
|
$25,769,891 to $27,519,891 |
$29,510,860 |
|
5,333 |
Pellicer Flats
Sweetbottom Plantation
With regards to the Sweetbottom purchase, I have updated the commentary to give further clarification.
With regards to Pellicer Flats, I stand by my original commentary.
1.) It was inappropriate to enter into negotiations with the Ginn organization at this time.
2.) The price was simply too high. The mitigation bank was a major element in Staff's selling the price to Commissioners.
3.) The land will VERY likely remain forever wild. From a practical standpoint, it is simply undevelopable.
Posted by Toby
I like your Blog but enough of the Ginn bashing, as an owner in HB I am sick and tired of you taking pot shots at Mr. Ginn, the reality is he is gone, he is going to spend a lot of time in the courts and I resent your continual guilt by association articles.
The sensitive lands purchase is great for Flagler and I applaud the forsight used by our commissioners to make this deal. I want developable land purchased, you are far from a developer and no better than commissioner peterson when he said the land was not developable...it most certainly is developable and would be, costing us the loss of a unique and highly sensitive land holding.
I live here, I know Mr. Ginn did many good and bad things, but at the end of the day the resort and the people who now work there along with my fellow members do not deserve to have you keep lumping us all into your trash talk.
If you hate Mr. Ginn then take it out on him, leave the rest of us to brag about what we have and enjoy here in the hammock, I for one am proud of what we have and am giving the new management team my support as they work to bring our club back.
I am sorry sir, but I do not think you are qualified to pass judgment on the commissioners actions, as I understand it the county paid for appraisals, the land in question was on the #1 desired purchase position for some 29 months and the environmental folks here in the area seemed very enthusiastic about the chance to get the land. With that said I do not understand why you cannot stop hating Ginn long enough to applaud our leaders for saving something very special.
I do not like your bias, mainly because I do not understand it, How much money do you make on advertiseing when you rake the muck? I am proud of what we have and I implore you to capture the positive as well as the negative.
Posted by Jack Johnson
Reply to Jack
I am a property owner and voter. What other qualifications do you think are necessary in order to pass judgment on the Commissioner's actions? I am not alone in my opinion of the Pellicer Flats purchase. Many community leaders with whom I've spoken agree. In fact it was their comments that initiated my further investigation.
I fail to see how this commentary could be construed as Ginn bashing. Ginn is hardly mentioned and not in a bad light. Ginn, meaning Ginn-LA, meaning Lubert-Adler represented by Reynolds did the deal. The very same parties were involved in the airport hanger lease that left the County owing $2M. It's also the same parties with whom the County is currently in an adversarial position regarding the NOPC appeal. I do not think the County should have been negotiating such a large deal with them at this time.
The land use experts with whom I spoke do not believe that the property could ever be developed. There are simply too many environmental obstacles; too expensive and impractical to overcome.
Hammock Beach is an exceptional property. That community will prosper. Anybody who is fortunate to live there is rightfully proud. Yes, Bobby is gone (operationally). But Lubert-Adler and their various operational partners remain. So too do the several Ginn-LA communities (nearly all of them) less fortunate than Hammock Beach.
History will be written by the facts. My role is to tell the story as it unfolds. And this story is terribly relevant to thousands of people who purchased Bobby's dream.
Posted by Toby
Hey Toby, There's a vacancy. Why don't you apply
Posted by Richard Hamilton
This article has really put this entire site in perspective. You're now pimping for "Community Leaders"? What happened to you?
The lack of leveraging over the past two years is due to the Florida Legislature's shut down of the Florida Forever program. Every source listed on that chart receives funding from Florida Forever. Toby, google it, pick up a phone, do your homework.
Clearly you have something against Ginn and more recently for the Tea Party.
And you wonder why John Stewart is getting rich making fun of the Tea Party.
Posted by Larry
Where could you have gotten the idea I was against the Tea Party? I'm a Tea Party fan and a Libertarian leaning registered Republican.
Posted by Toby


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Dear Toby,
This is the first time I have posted here so let me start by saying that I appreciate all the valuable info on your website, and your insightful comments. However I have to take issue with you on the Environmentally Sensitive Land Purchases. I am a fairly new member of theSensitive Lands Advisory Committee. Having helped support the YES campaign I felt I should also offer my help deciding where it was spent and, for the record, I voted yes on three purchases and NO on Sweetbottom. You should also understand that the committee decides on the merits of proposed land but not on the price paid.
You are a bit brief in your description of the reasons for the Bay Drive and Bings landing addition. I would have not voted in favor if the only reasons were what you describe, but since you are not making an issue of them neither will I.
Pellicer Flats is almost 1000 acres of extremely sensitive land and marshland running from the northern boundary of Palm Coast and Longs Landing, up to the southern edge of Princess Place and other publicly owned land just south of it. The land has been a high priority acquisition target for many years but somehow the county let it slip by and it was acquired by a Ginn company a few years ago. I feel sick about that, but it happened God knows how, but we should not let any dislike of Ginn-LA stop us from properly preserving this property forever.
Although the price seems high for something that has a lot of wetlands on it, it also does have quite a bit of uplands and the county had appraisals done by 2 companies and a third party reviewer. I don’t know how they really value a unique parcel like this, but a mitigation bank was definitely NOT part of the valuation equation. It is gravy if it happens. In the end it comes down to what is the parcel worth to us to preserve and how much are the sellers willing to accept. The price agreed was the result of a lot of bargaining. I was not involved but I would be bragging if I thought I could have done any better. You also have to understand about the Spanish Land Grant status of the property, which apparently gives them much more leeway to fill in property which is under water now but not part of Longs Creek waterway.
So we’re going to pay a bit over $3 million to preserve 1000 acres of what most people agree is pristine environmentally sensitive land, and be able to have another entrance to Princess Place, hiking, riding, kayaking, fishing and other recreation. $1 million would have been better but it wasn’t going to happen. The mitigation bank is extra gravy if it happens, and we’ll pay some more only if it happens.
My advice was to do the deal NOW, unless anyone really thought they could preserve this land permanently through zoning and other restrictions. You know that doesn’t work Toby. Commissions change, and this property could also be annexed to Palm Coast (which would probably involuntary sweep in the Creek Course golf course at the same time). Better safe now than regret later what we might have prevented.
I agree with most of your comments about Sweetbottom, though the part adjacent to Bulow Creek is important to preserve (and already had conservation easements on most of it). Your understanding of the access is different from mine, though I have asked the county to confirm it. The deal approved by the commissioners allows for public access via the existing private roadway from dawn to dusk until such time as the county creates access either from the adjacent county property to the north, or via some other access strip. And the county will always have emergency access and secondary egress via the existing road. If that’s not what was recorded then someone’s head should roll.
Richard Hamilton
Posted by Richard Hamilton