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Dear Toby - December 2007

Your Comments and Questions - My Replies

 

I receive several comments and questions from website visitors. To many, I have responded individually. It occurred to me that some of these would be of interest to all of you. I’ll publish selected input and replies under the “Dear Toby” banner, with a new page each month to keep the pages short and readable. The most recent entry will be at the top of the page.

 

Feel free to use the “Contact Us” button to send in your comments or questions. Your name will not be disclosed. Due to volume, I may be unable to reply to everyone.

 

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Question:  I am curious to learn what you may know about CityWalk and its progress, or lack thereof. Also, the many lawsuits that have been filed by disgruntled investors wary of the length of time it's taken to finish CityWalk as well as the possibility that the units are now worth less than when they were sold 2-3 years ago. How does the appraisal process work with regards to the value of the units now relative to the purchase price 2-3 years ago? Would the developer be forced to adjust the price on units under contract if the appraisals could not support the past numbers?

 

Toby Says:  I understand that CityWalk is now on its third general contractor and is running about two years behind schedule. This is not surprising since the same developer went through two general contractors and was also late delivering Parkway Plaza at 1000 Palm Coast Pkwy SW. CityWalk has the potential of being a commercial version of Tidelands. Buyers signed contracts under one market condition only to face closing on those same contracts in a much worse market. Depending on the nature of the contracts, some may walk away from deposits. Others may not be able to find financing because the current appraised value may not support the loan requirement. Once a Certificate of Occupancy (CO) is issued, things will play out rather quickly since people will have to make their intentions clear. The developer will not be “forced” by anything other than the realities of his situation. I will be following this story as it unfolds.

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Question:  Is there any truth to the rumor that the new clearing site at Roberts Road & 100 is going to be the new Wal-Mart instead of the new Publix Shopping Center?  This is the site across the highway from the now delayed CVS Store.

 

Toby Says:  No truth at all. The Roberts Road site will be another Publix plaza similar to the one on Belle Terre. The new Wal-Mart Supercenter will be on the east side Old Kings Road, north of SR100. (Map)

 

 

Question:  I see a continuation of large numbers of foreclosure suits filed, however the numbers of foreclosure sales seems to have dwindled considerably. Is there an explanation?

 

Toby Says:  I addressed your question to an attorney friend who specializes in foreclosures and bankruptcies. He suggested several reasons for the apparent drop in foreclosure sales relative to the number of foreclosure filings:

  • The glut of filings has kept the filing attorneys so busy they may not have time to file for final judgment or foreclosure sale.
  • Some lenders may have decided that it’s cheaper to let an owner temporarily stay in the house as long as they are performing the upkeep. The banks then avoid the cost of maintenance.
  • It’s the holidays. Some lenders may be avoiding the possible bad press caused by booting owners out of their foreclosed homes during the festive season.
  • More owners may be filing for bankruptcy prior to the foreclosure sale. Bankruptcy, in effect, stalls or stops the foreclosure process, avoiding the sale.

 

Question:  What are the wooden bridges for on both sides of US1, between Palm Coast parkway and 95?

 

Toby Says:  These structures are components of the pedestrian pathway along the Palm Coast Park master planned multi-use development (by Palm Coast Holdings) which stradles US1. The bridges carry the path across low areas and streams. Check out Palm Coast Park.

 

 

 

Question:  Quick question regarding building permits.  I noticed a permit issue this month on Riverwalk Dr for $454,000 at 4283 sf.  Does this value reflect the actual "sale price" of the house construction or builder costs.  This is $106/sf.  Isn't this low for a ICW frontage, 4300 square foot home?

 

Toby Says:  A very astute observation. Actually, this property is in Palm Coast Plantation, which is not in Palm Coast. It's a county permit. Unlike the city, the county permits show total square footage (including garage) rather than square footage under air. The value for both county and city permits is derived from a formula that takes into account square footage and features. It is not a measure of the actual cost paid. It’s just a number used to figure permit fees.

 

 

 

Question:  I am an owner in Cinnamon Beach and the real estate taxes that I am paying are as high as the last couple of years.  There has been no reduction even though market values have clearly been reduced.  Any advise on how to proceed to get these taxes reduced?

 

Toby Says:  By law, the property appraiser must base assessments on the prior year’s values. That means that your current taxes are based on 2006 property sales. This works well for owners when prices are rising because assessment increases run one year behind the underlying increase in value. But on the down side, it works against owners. You should see a decrease in your true value next year. If you are not homesteaded, you should also see a decrease in taxable value. But if you are homesteaded, watch out. You could experience a decrease in true value at the same time the assessed value rises. Follow this link to an article I wrote which sheds more light on the issue. What if Flagler County's Total Assessed Value Drops Next Year?

 

 

Question:  I just heard that Whitehall is backing away from Bankruptcy and will restart construction on the Riverview condominiums at Grand Haven.  The information supposedly came from Building Permit/Code enforcement folks at Palm Coast.  With the dearth of sales, I'm not sure I understand this strategy but it would be nice not to have empty hulls standing around the community.

 

Toby Says:  I spoke with a Whitehall executive today. They are renegotiating their credit lines. This requires a certification of city permits, engineering, and construction progress. That is why the city is involved now. Also required is a reappraisal of the property value, market conditions, and additional funding requirements. Whether or not the refinancing efforts are successful may not be known until early January. If unsuccessful, construction will not restart.

 

 

Question:  Why aren't developers for these major projects required to secure performance and payment bonds with completion dates before they are permitted?

 

Toby Says:  It’s a property rights issue. If you own property, you can do whatever is legally allowed. A building permit allows (permits) a property owner to build but does not require them to do so, nor should it. Bonding would make developments much more difficult to finance and make them more expensive. Legally, bonding requirements for private construction are not allowed. In a major development, bonding is allowed only for infrastructure that is going to be conveyed to the public (roads). Bonding for public construction (bridges, roads, public buildings, etc.) is legal. As for timing, a permit has an expiration date. Building cannot commence after the expiration date.

 

 

Question:  We are holding a reservation for a boat slip at Tidelands.  Do you know the status on the permitting process, the final plan, timing and pricing?

 

Toby Says:  I spoke with a Centex spokesperson. He could say only that they were actively taking reservations and the permitting process was underway. He could not comment on pricing or timing.

 

 

Question:  Do you know about Bobby Ginn's history at Hilton Head Island when Bumper Stickers read: "If Bobby Ginn owes you money, honk your horn?" Lots of Honking. Ginn over extended and promised the moon to HHI people and bankrupted several developments that were in good shape before he leveraged against the developments. It looks like he is doing the same thing again.

 

Toby Says:  Bobby Ginn did indeed have difficulty in Hilton Head during the 1980s. But the developments he bought were already in poor financial shape when he purchased them. When Bobby got into Hilton Head, he was steered for financing to two thinly capitalized S&Ls by an investment banker. It turns out that the banker had a stake in at least one of the S&Ls. The banks charged Bobby excessive fees for loans they arranged. These developments went through a series of owners with more than one bankruptcy. Bobby is reported to have gone through personal bankruptcy.

 

Investors take risks with their money. It’s a risk/reward business. Real estate developments take years to plan and execute but real estate is cyclical. Timing is not easy. In the Hilton Head case, the investment money came from institutions without staying power. The eighties were not good times for real estate. Today, while the market is also weak, Bobby Ginn has the support of Lubert-Adler, a real estate investment company with $35 billion in assets and a long range view of investment.

 

I find it interesting that a baseball player who succeeds only three in ten tries gets into the Hall of Fame while a business investor or developer who has one failure over twenty years ago is forced to carry the label for life.

 

 

 








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